Question: Long Term Review on Sound Deadening / proofing

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Question: Long Term Review on Sound Deadening / proofing

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I know this has been asked, and the threads and posts i have read have not given any long term quality reports.

I am looking at doing a little sound deadening installation on my truck. Though probably the best stuff the blow/spray in type stuff i am not going to be doing due to expense. What i am looking for is what you used and how it is holding up x number of years down the road. The reason i asked is because i was reading else where and i came across a number of post stating that the roll in mats start falling off and loosing there adhesive properties after a little while. Granted they said nothing about how much time they took on the install.

Thanks and i hope you all don't fins this repetitive but i figure there are enough of you out there that have done this that we might be able to see what the long term quality of these brands are.

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This maybe beneficial. I did not write this and it dates from 5-23-2011and is from http://www.caraudio.com/forums/miscella ... eview.html
Sound deadener review
Review of:Sound deadener

There is a lot of good info on here, but not much in the way of actual results. So here is the products that I have ran Dynamat Original, Dynamat extreme, Edead, Fatmat, Fatmat Xtreame, Fatmat Rattle trap XXX, Zilla mat, B-Quite, hushmat, and now Second Skin.

Dynamat original is good but you have to it to get it to stick, but once in place it is good to go. I would not use this on roofs, or trunk lids, or doors, just on you floors. No mess at all with this stuff.

Dynamat Extreme works great can be installed any temp sticks great. This stuff can be messy while installing, and will cut you up pretty good since the metal backing is so thin.

Edead do not recommend this stuff is asphalt needs to be heated up to stick, and falls when it gets above 100 degrees outside. This stuff can be messy while installing. This stuff can be messy while installing.

Fatmat do not recommend this stuff is asphalt needs to be heated up to stick, and falls when it gets above 100 degrees outside. This stuff can be messy while installing. This stuff can be messy while installing. This is the same stuff as Edead, maybe a little bit better quality in the foil, but that is it.

Fatmat rattletrap XXX is ok but still do not recommend this. You will have to heat this up to get it to stick good, as it is half butyl and half asphalt. But, it holds up in 100 degree temp outside. But if it is above 100 degrees outside for long periods like 12 hours in the sun, it will start to sag in places. This stuff can be messy while installing.

Fatmat Mega Mat works great can be installed in any temp. Sticks like a SOB. It is almost impossible to get it off when it is stuck to metal, and forget it if you stick it to its self.

Zilla mat do not recommend this stuff is asphalt needs to be heated up to stick, and falls when it gets above 100 degrees outside. This stuff can be messy while installing. This stuff can be messy while installing. This is the same stuff as Edead, someone told me that is the same company just a different name used on packaging.

B-Quite is ok but still do not recommend this. It is almost the exact same thing as Fatmat rattletrap XXX. You will have to heat this up to get it to stick good, as it is half butyl and half asphalt. But, it holds up in 100 degree temp outside. But if it is above 100 degrees outside for long periods like 12 hours in the sun, it will start to sag in places. This stuff can be messy while installing.

Hushmat is good can be applied at any temp. Unlike most companies that bounce the sound back at you and can help gain you DBs on the microphone. This one does not increase your sound it actually absorbs sound. This stuff can be messy while installing.

Second Skin works great and can be installed at any temp. This stuff sticks just as good as, if not better then the Fatmat extreme. The nice thing about this stuff is that it has easy clean up and no mess left behind. Plus it is thicker than any of the other mats that I have mentioned. In comparison to Dynamat it is about 1.5 times thicker, so 2 layers of this is like 3 layers of Dynamat.

IMO, I would have to say that Second Skin takes the cake when it comes to sound damping material, for all bang for your dollar. I would have to say that Fatmat Mega Mat is in close second, with Dynamat Extreme tied for second, and in forth would be Dynamat original but only if used on floors. As for the rest mentioned please don’t waste your money to save a buck or two. Spend a little more and get something that works good the first time around. I know that there is a few that have not been mentioned, but I have not personally tried them. Right now I will only be using Second Skin in all future installs, as well as cars I do for someone else. I am tired of helping someone put in cheap product and to have them come back a month later saying I did something wrong, because it is now sagging down.
This is a couple of posts down.
FYI Edead is butyl based. Pre 2010 it was asphalt. Nonetheless it still does not stick worth a darn.
So hope this helps. I am looking for any long term information on these types of products.

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Rob
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Well, based on others experience here, I bought Zillamat but have yet to install it. It has been sitting in my garage for a year while I was getting the truck ready. I should be putting it on in about 2 months though. I know whoever wrote that "review" said don't bother, but based on what others have said here, I went with it as I trust their opinions.

I don't know that anyone has posted any long term reviews yet, but I know there are some threads and youtube videos showing the successful immediate results.

I will say that I had planned on putting it on my roof top under my headliner, but I may re-think that with what was said about it falling after time. I may just stick with the floor and firewall then. Probably on the backside of my door panels as well.
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Second Skin makes many different products. I wonder which one they were using? Do you stick it on the back side of the interior door panels?
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I installed Zilla mat over a year ago and no issues at all. Did the entire cab, floor, roof, behind tank, inside doors etc. Very easy to apply. No adhesion issues. Easy clean up. I would say the posted review is not quite exact but I did not try any of the other brands. I too chose Zilla mat based on the reviews here.
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Thanks, for the information. I am kind of guessing its all in the prep work.
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I used fatmat rattle trap on the roof of my truck.Its been 6 months and it is still stuck just as good today, as the first day.As a fact I think it is stuck better now and would be a big job to pull it down. I have not put my headliner in yet just to be sure it was not going to fall. I am going to use it in the doors and on the floor. I cleaned the roof with paint thinner before putting it on. :thup:
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