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Just came across a listing by another seller for twice the price. http://www.ebay.com/itm/320924247896?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
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This might be a stupid question, but why are you guys NOT considering products like Hushmat, Boommat,or Dynamat for this? Is a factory quality replacement part being considered solely from a price standpoint?
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shortbedCUSTOM wrote:This might be a stupid question, but why are you guys NOT considering products like Hushmat, Boommat,or Dynamat for this? Is a factory quality replacement part being considered solely from a price standpoint?
I am...
convincor wrote:I liked the fit and all of the PVC but not the price..
Thinking another option would be carpet like the rangers had. Well my 72 did.
Never looked under it to see what was there. I'm thinking maybe Damplifier(http://store.secondskinaudio.com/dampli ... bulk-pack/ ) on everything. Then Heat wave( http://store.secondskinaudio.com/heat-wave-pro/ )for firewall and carpet over that??
I think I have left over heatwave from the cobra build, and planning to do rest of floors and such with the sound deadener anyway..
Thoughts??
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This might be a stupid question, but why are you guys NOT considering products like Hushmat, Boommat,or Dynamat for this? Is a factory quality replacement part being considered solely from a price standpoint?
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Not a stupid question. In my book, it's a matter of personal preference. I like the look of the original configuration. Quality carpet tucked under a black rubber covering. Using the sound deadener/insulation products you can mimic the properties of the pad but will then have carpet all the way up the firewall. That's not my personal taste. Also, the insulation on the back of these pads is at least 1/2" thick. The combination I put on my cab floor was altogether less a 1/4" thick. I just believe the 1/2" thick jute insulation will provide a better heat/sound barrier against the firewall. And at under $65 shipped, the price is right. Just my :2cents: of course.
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my 72 ranger I had had carpet with a bound edge along the bottom rather than the rubber pad. Thought it look more finished.. I'd like to see what it looked like out of the truck.. and how high it went
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shortbedCUSTOM wrote:This might be a stupid question, but why are you guys NOT considering products like Hushmat, Boommat,or Dynamat for this? Is a factory quality replacement part being considered solely from a price standpoint?
You only need to ask once...

The firewall pad goes OVER sound deadener. If you use both, as I am, it will of course deaden more sound and block more heat. If you use just deadener, it won't look very nice unless you cover it with something.

I may have mentioned this before, but I am using KnuKoncepts Kolossus from Amazon. It's arguably the best performing deadener per square foot $ wise, not worrying about weight.
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Hey guhfluh, got a link to that Amazon deadener? I've searched but only found KnuKoncepts wiring stuff. Thanks!
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Original testing results of deadeners: http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?f ... 3d77179e09
I couldn't make the determination which ones performed best per $, so I asked in there. The last page is where I asked.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009KXFBI ... _s_a_1_106
I ordered two kits of smaller size than that, but only because I couldn't find the 105sqft. pack at the time:( It would have come out cheaper though, as I got 140+sqft. total for my crew. I'm covering everything I can, from behind the tank, to doors(HUGE difference), to the floor and firewall, to the roof. The stuff is HEAVY, which is one big reason it works so well. It is also messy and will stick to anything. So far I've done the floor, some of the firewall and the drivers door, some of the passenger door and will be doing the drivers rear door today. I'm working around the body shop that's doing good some work on the cab back and pass rear door...So far though, the drivers door has made the most difference. I lined the back of the door panel and two sheets on the inside of the outer door skin. I didn't cover all of the inside of the door, but I may do some more. The inside door skin at the bottom, below the door panel needs some I think.

There is NO comparison to the Peel and Seal stuff from Home Depot. I tried that on the back of my gas tank and back wall and it made no difference, unlike this stuff where as soon as you apply it you can tell a big change. Again, it is heavy though.
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Thanks!
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My Son just brought me one of these pads he picked up on Ebay, hopefully in a week or two I will be ready to install it. Just holding it up to the firewall it looks like it will be a pretty good fit. I'll be using Summit Racing Sound deadener under it.
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Thought you guys might like is see what these rubber firewall pads look like installed. I put my sound deadening on first, then installed the pad. When I lined all the holes up the pad liked about a inch going to the drivers side kick panel and was about a inch to long on the other side. It left the wrinkles you can see in the pictures on both sides of the lump, I thank some of them can be pulled where there not as noticeable if you install a few extra clips. I'm getting ready to order a few more and try it anyway.

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Randle wrote:When I lined all the holes up the pad liked about a inch going to the drivers side kick panel and was about a inch to long on the other side.
I'm not quite sure what you mean here. Can you elaborate?

Thanks for the pictures! Hopefully it'll smooth out with some work.
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Sounds like it was an inch short on one side. And an inch to long on the other.
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The pad is the right size, all the holes is just a inch to close to the drivers side
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